<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="yes"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>3d-Printing on Andrew's Memory Blog</title><link>https://andrewmemory.acornwall.net/tags/3d-printing/</link><description>Recent content in 3d-Printing on Andrew's Memory Blog</description><generator>Hugo -- gohugo.io</generator><image><url>https://andrewmemory.acornwall.net/img/rss_image.png</url><title>3d-Printing on Andrew's Memory Blog</title><link>https://andrewmemory.acornwall.net/</link></image><language>en</language><managingEditor>andrewmemoryblog@gmail.com (Andrew's Memory Blog)</managingEditor><webMaster>andrewmemoryblog@gmail.com (Andrew's Memory Blog)</webMaster><copyright>Copyright 2009--2025</copyright><lastBuildDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2020 03:53:26 -0700</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://andrewmemory.acornwall.net/tags/3d-printing/index.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><item><title>Annealing PLA in powdered salt using sous vide</title><link>https://andrewmemory.acornwall.net/blog/2020-10-31-annealing-pla-in-powdered-salt-using-sous-vide/</link><pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2020 03:53:26 -0700</pubDate><author>andrewmemoryblog@gmail.com (Andrew's Memory Blog)</author><guid>https://andrewmemory.acornwall.net/blog/2020-10-31-annealing-pla-in-powdered-salt-using-sous-vide/</guid><description>&lt;p&gt;Stefan of &lt;a href="https://www.cnckitchen.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"&gt;CNC Kitchen&lt;/a&gt; recently posted about annealing (and later re-melting) PLA prints to improve their strength and temperature resistance. I decided to do some experiments of my own.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My method was to print out some PLA objects, pack them in a salt powder that gets vacuum-sealed, and then toss that in the sous vide for 18 hours. The sous vide doesn&amp;rsquo;t get hot enough to re-melt PLA, so it doesn&amp;rsquo;t have exactly the same characteristics, but it does gain some benefit. The advantage to the sous vide method is that it&amp;rsquo;s more available than a constant-temperature oven.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I did informal tests on the annealed prints for a few characteristics:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Smoothing - did the texture of the print change?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Strength between layers - was the print any stronger between layers?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Waterproofing - did the print eventually get waterlogged when placed in water?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Temperature resistance - did the print get as flexible when subjected to increased temperatures as a non-annealed print?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;
&lt;h2 class="relative group"&gt;Procedure
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&lt;p&gt;I used four objects: a hollow spheroid, a 30x5x5 mm bar, a calibration cube, and a box with tabs that were oriented perpendicular to the layers. I ground up plain (uniodized) salt in a spice mill, and put that into a FoodSaver bag that was double-sealed at the bottom. Relative humidity when I sealed the bag was around 33%.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I nestled my prints in the salt, then vacuum-sealed the bag and double-sealed the top.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Sealed in the bag. The salt prevented sharp edges from poking holes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Next, I tossed the bag in a pot of water along with an Anova Nano sous vide stick. I set the temperature for 80 C (176 F) and left it that way for 18 hours.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Cooking at 80 C&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;After that, I turned the sous vide stick off and let the pot come to room temperature.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h2 class="relative group"&gt;Observations
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&lt;p&gt;When I removed the salt from the bag, it had formed a solid mass that could be broken apart by hand. I carefully extracted the printed objects. The box lid and letters on the calibration cube letters were packed with salt, but that could be washed out easily.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I measured most of the objects, and found that they had indeed changed size - all were a few percent smaller than before annealing. So I knew annealing did &lt;em&gt;something&lt;/em&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Print&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Original dimension (mm)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;After annealing (mm)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Change (as % of original)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;Calibration cube X&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;20.13&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;19.98&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;99.3&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;Calibration cube Y&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;20.08&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;19.89&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;99.1&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;Calibration cube Z&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;20.15&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;19.98&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;99.2&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;Spheroid diameter&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;20.08&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;19.78&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;98.5&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;Spheroid height (Z)&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;24.82&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;24.72&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;99.6&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;Bar length (X)&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;30.23&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;30.06&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;99.4&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;Bar width (Y)&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;5.14&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;5.06&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;98.4&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;Bar height (Z)&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;5.00&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;4.95&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="has-text-align-center" data-align="center"&gt;99.0&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;
&lt;h2 class="relative group"&gt;Results
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&lt;/h2&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Tabs broke off just as easily after annealing&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Smoothing: unlike Stefan&amp;rsquo;s experiments with PLA re-melting, the annealed objects did not change texture. The plastic still showed the same layer lines and other 3D printer artifacts that non-annealed prints did. I attribute that to the fact that the plastic never flowed - the annealing temperature was always below the melting point.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Strength: when I assembled the box, the tabs broke off exactly as they had when I printed non-annealed PLA using the &amp;ldquo;wrong&amp;rdquo; orientation. I couldn&amp;rsquo;t measure it, but I don&amp;rsquo;t think annealed PLA was any stronger between layers.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Waterproofing: after immersing the spheroid in water for a week, it seemed to sink a little lower, but then stop. I don&amp;rsquo;t think I&amp;rsquo;d want to claim that annealing changed the waterproofing of the prints.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Temperature resistance: this did appear to change. I put both the annealed and non-annealed bar prints on the printer bed at 73 C (163 F). After a few minutes, the non-annealed bar was flexible enough that it could be bent between my fingers. In contrast, the annealed print remained solid, and in fact snapped when I applied more pressure.&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;The non-annealed part was flexible after heating to 73 C. The annealed part was not.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h2 class="relative group"&gt;Conclusion
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&lt;p&gt;Annealing sous vide is useful for imparting temperature resistance to PLA, and may be a valuable technique for PLA objects that need to live in a hot environment (such as a car in the summertime). Sous vide annealing is easier and more reliable than trying to anneal in a kitchen oven. Annealing alone does not change texture, strength between layers or waterproofing characteristics.&lt;/p&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>